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Paul Mirengoff's avatar

Thanks for the comment. You may be right that the debate won't have a meaningful impact on the outcome of the election and maybe even the polls. I hope you are.

Harris won on the "vibes" but not on the issues. I agree with you there.

But I can't see anyone switching from undecided to Trump based on his performance. I can see some voters (how many, I don't know) switching from undecided to Harris because she sounded good and had a pretty good demeanor.

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K Tucker Andersen's avatar

Partially agree- Trump is often his own worst enemy for multiple reasons and for the majority of the debate this was the case. He underestimated both Harris’ ability to remain coherent for 90 minutes as also the extent of the open hostility of the moderators. ( As did I , AMD I was pretty cynical in this regard - but did not understand the stent of Muir’s lack of objectivity since I never watch ABC. However, while Harris clearly won on form and her ability to bait Trump, in spite of his problems to any semi objective observer Trump still clearly won on the issues - as both my unscientific anecdotal survey of my associates with political awareness and the panels of undecided voters conducted during and after the debate indicated. Her constant religion of her talking points and deflection on almost all issues grew increasingly obvious. I would be very surprised if this debate has any meaningful impact on either the polls or undecided voters’ decisions.

As difficult as I find it to vote for Trump, neither of them has the character that I would hope for in a President but at least Trump is a known quantity under whom the country prospered until Covid and she is a deceitful ultra progressive who could easily totally destroy our republic during a four year presidency . If she has not changed her values as she claims, then they are still inimical to me. And Walz is to the left of her and whose policies as a governor have been abominable.

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